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The phono vs line signals is one of the most discussed topics in the vinyl world, mostly between beginners, but still, it is one of the most misunderstood topics.
I have seen many users complaining that their turntable is outputting no sound when they spin their record, or the speakers output distorted sound, and sometimes sound like they are blown up or placed underwater.
In the vinyl world, it is one of the most common problems often faced by users who don’t understand the difference between phono and line signals.
Well, phono-level and line-level signals play a crucial role in sound quality, and a deep understanding of these signals is required to complete and achieve the perfect sound quality from a turntable setup.
In this article, we will discuss everything about phono/line signals and their specific input/output terminals on the turntable, amplifiers, and active speakers.
So, let’s get started.
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Understanding phono and line signals:
The difference between phono and line signals is the voltage and equalization.
As we all know, a vinyl record contains music information inside its grooves, and music from the record grooves is generated by a phono cartridge.
A turntable’s phono cartridge, part of a turntable, fetches audio signals from the record grooves through a stylus.
Whenever the stylus runs inside the record groove, it moves right and left while responding to the audio channels inside the record grooves.
These movements are transmitted to the electric signal generation system inside the cartridge’s body as vibrations through the cantilever.
The electric signal generation system inside the cartridge’s body converts these vibrations into small electric currents/signals, known as phono signals.
These phono signals are very weak, ranging from 0.0003V to 0.006V (depending on the turntable cartridge), and the RIAA equalization curve is already applied to them. The application of the RIAA equalization curve is why phono signals don’t have a flat frequency curve.
When these phono-level signals are amplified by or passed through the phono preamp, they become line-level signals.
The phono preamp amplifies the weak phono signals (0.0003V to 0.006V) to strong line signals (0.316V) and applies the reverse application of the RIAA equalization curve, which helps line-level signals get a flat frequency curve.
Here, we can also say that line-level signals don’t need a phono preamp.
These line-level signals are further transmitted to amplifiers and speakers to make the sound audible to human ears.
So, this is the in-depth explanation of phono and line-level signals. Now, we are going to share the key difference between them.
Phono vs line signals:
Phono signal | Line signal | |
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Definition | The signals generated by a turntable phono cartridge without any amplification by the phono preamp are known as phono-level signals. | The signals after amplification and reverse RIAA equalization curve application by the phono preamp are known as line-level signals. |
Signal strength | Weak | Strong |
Output (in volts) | The output ranges between 0.0003V to 0.006V (depending on the cartridge and its variant). | The output is at a standardized level, i.e., 0.316V. |
Generated by | Turntable and record players only | CDs, decks, MP3 players, and other modern music devices |
Phono preamp | Required | Not Required |
Flat frequency curve | No | Yes |
Direct connectivity to speakers or amplifiers | No, you need to use a phono preamp. | Yes, you can directly transmit the signals to the line-level input of the receiver or powered speakers. |
So, this is the difference between phono signals and line signals.
Let’s proceed further and understand the phono/line switch on turntables and its role.
What does the Phono/Line switch on the Turntable mean and its role?
A turntable with a phono/line switch means that your turntable has a built-in phono stage, and you can engage or disengage the phono preamp using this switch.
When switched to phono, the built-in phono preamp is disabled, and the turntable outputs phono-level signals.
Similarly, when switched to the line, the built-in phono preamp is enabled, and the turntable outputs line-level signals.
And one more important thing to understand is that you won’t find this switch on every turntable so if you don’t see a phono/line switch on your turntable then your unit doesn’t have a built-in phono preamp and the signals outputted by the turntable are phono-level signals which need further amplification by phono preamp before going into line level input of receiver or active speakers.
Well, phono means that the signals output by the turntable are at the pre-amplification stage, which needs reverse application of the RIAA equalization curve and multiple x gains to reach the 0.316V accepted by receivers or powered speakers.
Now, let’s understand the difference.
Phono vs line switch on turntable:
Phono | Line | |
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Definition | Phono switch means that the signals output by the turntable are at the pre-amplification stage, and a reverse RIAA equalization curve is not applied. | The line switch means that the signals output by the turntable are at the post-amplification stage, and a reverse RIAA equalization curve is already applied. |
Signal Strength | Weak | Strong |
Output (In Volts) | The output ranges between 0.0003V to 0.006V (depending on the cartridge and its variant). | The output is at a standardized level, i.e., 0.316V. |
Phono Preamp | Required | Not Required |
Flat Frequency Curve | No | Yes |
Sound Quality | Better than line-level signals | Good |
Direct Connectivity to Speakers or Amplifiers | No, you need to use a phono preamp. | Yes, you can directly transmit the signals to the line-level input of the receiver or powered speakers. |
So, this is the brief difference between the phono and line switch on the turntable.
Now, let’s discuss these in detail.
What does phono mean on a turntable?
The phono switch means that your unit’s built-in phono stage is disabled, and now, your turntable outputs phono signals.
As I told you before, you need to add a phono stage to your setup. It can be an external phono preamp, a built-in phono stage of the amplifier or stereo receivers, or even a built-in phono preamp of active speakers.
But before selecting the phono preamp, you must know that there is a limit to the amplification that can be done by a phono preamp.
Little confused?
Don’t worry, let me explain it.
Well, I haven’t explained one more important aspect before, i.e., not all phono signals are of the same voltage.
Yes, you heard it right.
The voltage of the phono signal depends on the type of phono cartridge you are using.
To help you understand it better, let me share the overview of the two most popular and commonly used cartridges in the turntable:
- Moving magnet cartridges (MM Cartridges)
- Moving coil cartridges (MC Cartridges)
Well, the working concept of both these cartridges is the same, but these are engineered differently, and due to this, the signals generated by them are of different voltages.
Note: We have shared in-depth insights into turntable cartridges and explained their engineering with diagrams. I suggest you learn about these cartridges before proceeding further. I also recommend that you understand the in-depth difference between MC and MM cartridges to understand the concept that I am explaining right now in a better way.
Hoping that you have understood the cartridges and their engineering, let’s discuss the output of both cartridges in volts and millivolts.
Moving magnet cartridge output:
Type | MV | Volts |
---|---|---|
Standard | 3-6 mV | 0.003 V to 0.006 V |
Moving coil cartridge output:
Type | Millivolts (mV) | Volts (V) |
---|---|---|
Low-level MC | 0.3 mV or less | 0.0003 V or less |
Medium Level MC | < 1.0 mV | < 0.001 V |
High-level MC | more than 1.5 mV | 0.0015 V |
So, these are the volts that both cartridges output, and these volts need to be amplified further.
Now, let’s talk about the amount of amplification these phono signals need to reach line level.
Phono signals must be amplified to:
The line inputs of an amplifier or powered speakers accept signals at 0.316 Volt or 316 mV, so a phono preamp amplifies these sound signals until they reach 0.316 Volt or 316 mV, which means multiple x gains.
So, the output of a moving coil cartridge needs much more amplification as compared to a moving magnet cartridge.
And, this is where the selection of a phono preamp comes in.
If you are using an MC cartridge, then you need to select the phono preamp that is compatible with the MC cartridge, but if you are using an MM cartridge, then you can select any phono preamp on the market. We have already covered the phono preamp compatibility with the phono cartridge, so you can read it to understand this concept better.
So, this is all about the phono switch. Now, let’s talk about a line switch.
What does line mean on a turntable?
The line switch means the built-in phono preamp is enabled, and the turntable outputs line-level signals. In simple words, the line switch means that the signals output by the turntable are at the line stage, i.e., 0.316V, and these signals need no further amplification from the phono preamp.
So, we can simply connect the output to the line input of your receiver, powered or active speakers, directly.
Now, let’s learn the difference between phono and line input on a receiver or amplifier.
Phono vs line input on stereo receiver or powered speakers:
Phono Input | Line Input | |
---|---|---|
Definition | The phono input accepts pre-amplified signals from the turntable. | Line input accepts post-amplified signals from either a turntable or an external phono preamp |
Signals (Volts) Accepted | The input expects signals ranging from 0.0003V to 0.006V (depending on the model). | The input expects signals at a standardized level, i.e., 0.316V. |
Gains | The amount of signal gain depends on the stereo receiver’s specifications (The in-depth explanation of gains is shared below). | No further gains |
Phono Preamp | The input has a built-in phono preamp. | No |
So, this is the brief difference between the phono and line input on the stereo receiver or powered amplifier.
Well, these signals are further amplified by the receiver to make them audible on speakers, so now, let’s discuss these in detail.
What does phono input mean on the receiver or powered speakers?
The phono input on the receiver means that the receiver has a built-in phono preamp, so you can directly transmit the phono signals from your turntable into this input.
The phono input plays two roles in the amplification:
- Amplifies phono signals to line-level signals
- Applies the RIAA equalization curve in reverse
You need to transmit the turntable’s phono output into the receiver’s phono input through RCA cables.
You might also get a single auxiliary phono input where you need to use an “RCA to auxiliary cable”.
For knowledge: If you find a receiver without phono input, then the receiver doesn’t have an in-built phono preamp.
Gains Concept (Important):
Now, I am explaining the gains concept mentioned in the comparison table above.
Well, we have talked about cartridges in the article above, that moving coil cartridge signals are much weaker than the signals output by moving magnet cartridges.
Thus, the moving coil cartridge’s signals need more amplification than moving magnet cartridges.
Most of the receivers in the market only support moving magnet cartridges, which means that if you transmit the output of a moving coil cartridge, then the signals won’t get amplified to a level needed, which can cause sound-related issues.
Thus, when you are using a moving coil cartridge with a receiver compatible with a moving magnet cartridge, you need to use a setup transformer or a head amp to first amplify the MC cartridge signals to the MM cartridge level, and then you can transmit the signals to the phono level input in the receiver.
Or, you can use a receiver compatible with a moving coil cartridge.
What does line input mean on the receiver or powered speakers?
The line input on the receiver accepts the post-amplified signals from the phono preamp. This input just amplifies the line signals further to make them audible on the speakers.
But if you try to transmit the phono stage signals to the line input, then you won’t be able to hear the music on your speakers, or the volume will be very low.
So, this is all about phone and line signals, switches, and input.
Now, let’s understand the application of these in a turntable setup.
How to use phone/line signals, switch, and input in the turntable setup:
Well, we have explained everything in depth, but that was all theory and concepts now, let’s talk about the practical usage of these signals, switches, and inputs in a real turntable setup. If you are new to the vinyl world and looking to buy a perfect turntable setup, I recommend you check our list of the best turntables under 500. These recommendations are perfect for beginners and for people looking to upgrade their entry-level turntables.
I am sharing the different turntable setups with different equipment. You can follow any one setup according to your equipment’s specifications to achieve a perfect turntable setup.
Turntable with built-in phono stage:
Setup 1: Turntable (line signals) -> Receiver/Amplifier -> Passive speakers
In this setup, your turntable has a built-in phone stage. So, enable your phone stage by switching the phono/line switch to the line and then transmit the line signals from the turntable directly to the line input of the receiver, and then the receiver’s output to speakers.
Setup 2: Turntable (line signals) -> Active or powered speakers
In this setup, your turntable has a built-in phone stage. So, enable your phone stage by switching the phono/line switch to the line and then, transmit the line signals from the turntable directly to the line input of the active or powered speakers.
Turntable without built-in phono stage:
Setup 1: Turntable (phono signals) -> External phono preamp -> Receiver/Amplifier -> Passive speakers
In this setup, you have a turntable without a built-in phone stage, so you can use an external phono preamp. After that, you can transmit the line level signals from the external phono preamp to the line input of the receiver and then the receiver’s output to the speakers.
Setup 2: Turntable (phono signals) -> Receiver or Amplifier with built-in phono preamp -> Passive speakers
In this setup, your turntable again doesn’t have a built-in phone stage, and your receiver does. So, you need to transmit the phono signals from the turntable directly to the phono input of the receiver, and then the receiver’s output to the speakers.
Setup 3: Turntable (phono signals) -> Active Speakers with built-in phono stage
In this setup, your turntable doesn’t have a built-in phone stage, and your active or powered speakers do. So, you need to transmit the phono signals from the turntable directly to the phono input of your active or powered speakers.
So, these are the perfect turntable setups that you can achieve by using the exact placement and usage of signals, switches, and input terminals of your equipment. And with this explanation, all your questions- “Do I set my turntable to phono or line?“, “Phono or line for powered speakers” and “Phono or line for Bluetooth” are answered. But if you have any doubts, then I am here to help you out with anything. Just drop a comment below, and I will get back to you.
Well, there is one more thing that I would like to cover.
Many people often ask me whether their Audio Technica turntables, Fluance turntables, Pro-Ject turntables, and other brands should be on phono or line.
The answer is that no matter which turntable you are using or which brand it is, the fundamentals are always the same, i.e., you must make adjustments according to the turntable setup, and we have already covered all possible turntable setups above.
Now, you might be thinking that it’s the end of the article, but actually, there is still one topic left to cover, i.e., does a phono sound better than a line?
Well, I know it has become a very long article, but trust me, after reading this article alone, you won’t have any further questions related to phono and line concepts ever in your life.
So, let’s proceed.
Phono vs line sound quality – Which one is better?
According to my tests with different turntable setups, i.e., using an internal phono preamp, an external phono preamp, or the receiver’s phono input, I concluded that the phono signals transmitted through a good quality external phono preamp always output better and more detailed sound quality as compared to a turntable with a built-in phono stage.
Even if you use the receiver’s phono input, you will experience a far better sound quality from a setup using the turntable’s built-in phono preamp.
Well, the difference is not so much to be noticed by normal listeners, but if you have trained ears like music producers, audiophiles, or sound engineers, then you will notice the difference.
Frequently asked questions:
Q1- Does a phono sound better than a line?
According to my tests with different turntables, a turntable using a good-quality external phono preamp always outputs better and more detailed sound quality than a turntable using a built-in phono stage.
Q2- Why does the phono input sound bad?
The phono input sounds bad when the signals are over-amplified.
The over-amplification of phono signals happens in two ways:
- Transmitting line-level signals to the external phono preamp or phono input of the receiver.
- Using MM cartridge output on MC cartridge input on an external phono preamp or receiver.
Case 1:
Let’s say you have an Audio Technica that has an inbuilt phono preamp.
Now, while setting up the turntable, you have engaged the in-built phono preamp by switching the “PHONO/LINE” switch to the line, and after that, you transmit these signals to either the external phono preamp or the phono input of the receiver, which causes the phono signals to be amplified twice, i.e., first by the in-built phono preamp and secondly by the external phono preamp or the receiver’s in-built phono preamp.
In this case, you will hear bad sound from the speakers.
Solution:
Your phono signals should be amplified only once. You can do that using an in-built phono preamp, an external phono preamp, or the phono input of the receiver. You must make sure that the phono signals are not amplified twice.
Case 2:
We have shared an in-depth explanation of the cartridge’s output and gains concept in the article above, and I recommend you re-read it to understand it properly.
Taking that into consideration, the moving coil cartridge signals are much weaker than the moving magnet cartridge signals, and accordingly, the MC cartridge needs much more amplification as compared to MM cartridges.
So, if you transmit the MM/moving magnet cartridge signals to the phono input for the MC cartridge, then your MM cartridge signals will be amplified more than the requirements, which results in over-amplification, and you will hear weird sounds coming from your speakers.
Solution:
The signals from the MM cartridge must be transmitted to the phono input compatible with the MM cartridge, and similarly, the MC cartridge signals must be transmitted to the phono input compatible with the MC cartridge.
Q3- Does phono mean AUX?
No, phono doesn’t mean AUX. Both the phono input and the AUX input perform different functions.
The phono input has an in-built phono preamp, which will first amplify phono signals to line-level signals while applying the reverse of the RIAA equalization curve, and after that, these line-level signals are further amplified by the amplifier to make them audible on the speakers.
On the other hand, the AUX line doesn’t have an in-built phono preamp, and it accepts line-level signals. Its only function is to amplify the line-level signals to make them audible on the speakers.
Q4- Should I use phono or line output?
If your turntable is set on “Phono”, you need to transmit the turntable’s output to the phono input of the receiver/amplifier/mixer/active speakers. On the other hand, if your turntable is set on “Line”, you need to transmit the turntable’s output to the line input of the receiver/amplifier/mixer/active speakers.
Pro tip: Just remember this simple formula: Phono to phono or Line to line. That’s it.
Q5- Do I use phono or line for Bluetooth?
You should always use the line for Bluetooth. There are three different scenarios to connect the turntable to Bluetooth:
Scenario 1: The turntable has a built-in phono stage and Bluetooth:
Switch the “Phono/Line” switch to line and turn on Bluetooth.
Scenario 2: The turntable has a built-in phono stage but no Bluetooth.
Switch the “Phono/Line” switch to line and connect the Bluetooth transmitter to your turntable through an RCA cable.
Scenario 3: The turntable doesn’t have a built-in phono stage or Bluetooth:
Connect the turntable to the external phono preamp, and connect the Bluetooth transmitter to the external phono preamp’s line input through RCA cables.
Q6- Is aux a phono or line?
Aux is a line-level input.
Q7- What is the difference between line and phono cables?
There is no difference between line and phono cables; cables are the same for both.
I have explained the whole concept of phono and line in-depth. If you still have any kind of query then feel free to comment below. I will get back to you as soon as possible.
Hi, I am facing one issue. I have connected by turntable to external phono preamp and then transmitted the output to powered speakers but I am facing sound distortion. Please help me resolve this issue.
Hi Leonel,
To help you resolve the issue, I need more details so, please answer the following questions:
Q1- Does your turntable has built-in phono stage?
Q2- Does your powered speakers have phono input on the backside?
Please answer these two question so that I can understand the cause of the problem you are facing.
Thanks for responding.
Yes, my turntable does have a phono stage but there is no phono input behind my speakers.
Then, I suggest you to follow any one of the setups mentioned below:
Setup 1: Turntable with phono preamp enabled > powered speakers
Setup 2: Turntable with phono preamp disabled > external phono stage > powered speakers
If you use built-in phono preamp along with external phono preamp then your phono signals will get amplified twice and you will hear distortion.
Well, over-amplification of phono signals is not the only reason behind sound distortion so I recommend you check out this article – https://turntablewave.com/record-player-sounds-distorted/
Let me know how it goes.
Turning off the built-in phono stage fixed the issue. Thanks, James.
That’s great. I am glad to help you out!
Finally, my doubt between phono and line level signal is cleared now.
Hi Domenic, I’m glad to help you.
Finally, I understood the role of phono input on my amplifier. I think you are the only one who has explained this complex topic in such simple language. Thanks James.
Welcome Kris, I am glad to help you out.
I loved how you made this complex topic easy to understand for beginners like us. Keep up the excellent works guys.
Thanks, Jimmy for the appreciation.
hi, i have a Audio technica turntable, i have and amplifier, but i also have a Behringer dj mixer. My turntable goes thru my mixer, i found my sound to be better with the Line on, than with Phono on, When Recording and playing ( or not much difference)…is that the mixer that does the Difference ? does it really matter if you have it on Phono or Line, when you use a Mixer ?
No, it doesn’t matter. You can use either line or phono on any mixer, but the condition for using phono is that your DJ mixer must have a phono input, which means a built-in phono preamp.
And according to your query, it seems like you are using line input for both line-level or phono-level signals from the turntable, and this is the reason why the sound is not so good when you switch to phono. (Read the amplification concept mentioned in the article above).
My first suggestion for you is to check whether your DJ mixer has phono input or not. If it doesn’t, then you need to stay with line on.
But if it does, then try connecting the output of the turntable to the phono input of the mixer when you turn on the turntable’s phono stage and check the sound again.
Well, we have also talked about the difference between phono and line sound quality, so I suggest you read that part of this article again to understand the concept.
Let me know how it goes.
hi, thanks for the reply. i did say something wrong, i have it on line thru mixer when recording my Vinyl Digital to my computer, but the Amplifier is not on twhile recording ( The reason i don’t have the amplifier on while recording, is coz there is a buzzing sound ( small one ) coming out of the speaker, after much research, we have come to the conclusion it is the Electric in my house. My mixer has 4 channels, both Line and Phono. Now, i’m not sure this mixer has built in Amplifier, but since my turntable has a Preamp, i am now using Line on both cd’s and my Turntable. i did find, that using Line while recording, when i put the songs in SPEK after, the signals or KHz, are a little higher with the Line on. Yes i read this whole article, was amazed how much different it was between Line and Phono, but since i also have a Mixer, i thought i’d ask about that. One more thing, since my turntable has a built in preamp, what happens then, if my mixer also has a Preamp ? i have played with Line now for a while, and it sounds good too me, but it has higher KHz with Line.
cheers Ronny
Hi Ronny,
For recording purposes, you don’t need an amplifier, and also, it is quite common that songs recorded from a vinyl record have a higher sample rate so you don’t need to worry about it.
Moving to the next question, if your mixer has a phono preamp and you are transmitting the turntable’s line-level signals to the mixer’s phono input, then it will be a situation of overamplification, and you will hear distorted sound from speakers. Well, you can read about this in this article- what happens when turntable’s line level signals are transmitted to phono input of amplifier or powered speakers.
Let me know, if you have any questions.
You mean i don’t need amplifier because the turntable has it ? i record my Vinyl directly from my turntable thru Line directly into my Computer, that works fine. i don’t have any problems with Distortion while playing, with Phono or Line ( But Line has higher signals Like i said ), but i use Mixer, so you answered me that. The only problem i have with recordings of Vinyl, is that the sound always get so low, compared to cd’s, and so on. i use Audacity, and they recommend -6DB Max so you don’t get Clipping, after that i Amplify it some DB. Some even say you can get the Waves RED, and it will not be Clipped, if you record it without distortion/Clipping in the first place. i have tested this just this week, some of my Vinyls are now RED while i put it in Audacity ( after i have Amplified the songs more, to get higher Volume ), and it Sounds good too me. But now i got a little of track here, anyways, thank you for replying, great article you have written on this topic
No turntable has a built-in powered amplifier unless you are talking about all-in-one units (record players). Your turntable can have a built-in phono stage, but it also needs further amplification from a powered amplifier before speakers.
And I am glad that you figured it out.
Thanks for the appreciation, Ronny. It means a lot. 🙂
Again i said the wrong thing, i meant my turntable has a built in Preamp, not amplifier 🙂 anyways thanks again
Welcome 🙂
*sorry error – 4 channels – 3 Phono – 2 cd’s – 3 Line – So i use my cd’s on cd of source
Super nice article! Thanks
But you had me confused for a bit when comparing equals where one of them needs more amplification:
> So, the output of a moving *coil* cartridge needs much more amplification as compared to a moving *coil* cartridge.
You might want to correct that.
But it did require me to re-read the specs.
So in the end, the error improved my comprehension 😉
Hi Philip, I am glad that you liked the article. And yes, I have fixed the error and special thanks to you for reporting it.
Have a nice day Philip!
I have tested it as well, the external phono stage do performs better than internal phono stage.
Yes, you’re right Cagri!!
You’re so awesome! I didn’t read a single article explaining phono/line concept like this before. So great to find someone with some real knowledge on these concepts.
Thank you for the kind words, Laura.
There is definitely a lot to find out about this subject. I like all the points you made.
Glad to help you out!!